STO resubmission days
- tomassito
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We have set field NO.RESUBMSSN.DAYS in FT.APPL.DEFAULT to 5. However we have two FTs in IHLD status generated from 2 different standing orders.
The override of the first one is "Account 100005162023 Balance will fall below Locked 18910FROM DATE from" and of the second is "LIMIT CHECK RETURN CODE 12".
The STO records are with monthly frequency and their execution day for the the first time was today 14.03.2013.
Why these FTs are generated since we have parameterized NO.RESUBMSSN.DAYS?
Thank you in advance!
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- jpb
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From TEMN help:
Standing Order Resubmission
If a Standing Order fails due to insufficient funds, the associated funds transfer record generated is placed on hold status pending manual intervention.
Standing Orders can be set for automatic resubmission if failure is due to insufficient funds. Two methods exist to retry either for up to 10 days within the Close of Business batch processing or online at set time intervals during the following day as a phantom process. These methods can be combined to create a continuous retry process that runs all day every day until funds become available or until the limit of 10 days is reached.
Daily resubmission is enabled in FT.APPL.DEFAULT, entering a value for the number of days in NO.RESUBMSSN.DAYS.
Specifying RETRY.START.TIME and RETRY.END.TIME in a 24-hour clock notation, within the FT.APPL.DEFAULT record, enables online resubmission. To start the online process the EB.SO.RETRY.CHECK record in EB.PHANTOM needs to be verified. This record contains the field parameter SLEEP.SECS to allow the user to indicate a time interval in seconds between retry attempts. For example, to retry failed Standing Orders every hour enter an interval of 3600 (60 seconds x 60 minutes).
When the retry limit is reached without sufficient funds, the funds transfer record is created in hold as before, and T24 can generate a delivery advice message to this effect. The message to be used is specified in FT.APPL.DEFAULT SO.MESSAGE.TYPE.
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- tomassito
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When we revised the help text(before making the set up of FT.APPL.DEFAULT) we understood that no FT record wil be generated untill the days for ressubmission are end, i.e. in our case we understood that the FT will be generated after the fifth retry.
We understood that the STO will be resubmitted, instead of the FT.
So please clarify the functionality-on the first day a FT will be generated and if during the next 5 days the balance is still unavailable then on the sixth day new FT will be genareted or the old one will be valid.In case that new is generated what happens with the old one?
Thank you very much once again.
p.s. we are not using online resubmission
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Just try!
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- kartsnek
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For example we have defined NO.RESUBMSSN.DAYS as 5 days.
Account balance is 500 , STO has created for 1000.
1st day COB - system generates retry STO as the account does not have sufficient amount.
2nd day COB - system generates retry STO as the account does not have sufficient amount.
3rd day COB - system generates retry STO as the account does not have sufficient amount.
4th day COB - system generates retry STO as the account does not have sufficient amount.
5th day COB - system generates FT in IHLD and moved all the retry STO to History.
in case , if the account have sufficient amount in between days, the FT will be placed in Live.
if any override is generated, then the system places the FT in IHLD status even the account have sufficient amount.
Hope this will clarify your doubts.
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Karthi
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- tomassito
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- sri
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Field NO.RESUBMSSN.DAYS. in FT.APPL.DEFAULT Must be set to '' , So when the Funds are not available FT record will be placed in IHLD Status on the same day when STO is submitted 1st time during Start of Day process.
If any value is mentioned in Field NO.RESUBMSSN.DAYS then FT is created in IHLD only after it reaches the Count mentioned.
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Yadav
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- eds
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If i have STO and the funds is insufficient until the last period, what will happen with this STO?
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- kartsnek
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If the FUND is not avaialble until the last period, the system keeps generating retry STO with daily frequency until the last period and finally generate FT in IHLD and the STO cycle to next frequency and retry STO will move to History.Once the FUND arrived in that account in between lat period, the system generates FT in LIVE(if no override) and STO will cycle to next frequency meantime retry STO will be moved to History.
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Karthi
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